easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

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easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by 133bhp » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:23 am

X with bow roller/cdi furler

my forestay needed to be tighter on the water, but when shortened, no way could I pin it on my own even with the removal of the backstay. in the end, I found I could tie off a rope to the front mast support brarcket, run it around the bow roller to a loop formed around the cdi furler drum and back around the roller, cleated off. . This pulls it to the coorect height but an inch or so out of line, but its easy to push the drum so the holes line up so slips in with one finger.

I will finda small ratchet strap to do a similer job.

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by JohnCFI » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:13 pm

I use the trailer winch webbing run up and over the bow roller, does the same job.. Needless to say I have a second line attaching the boat to the trailer (I never depend on just the winch to hold the boat on the trailer).

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by mastreb » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:26 pm

Mike Inmon suggests using a dockline tied above the furler down to the trailer, and then putting your foot through the eye to pull the furler down to the tang. This leaves both hands free to pin it.

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by Catigale » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:19 am

That foot trick is magical. Two hands make pinning the furler a cinch..... :wink:

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by JohnCFI » Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:26 am

mastreb wrote:Mike Inmon suggests using a dockline tied above the furler down to the trailer, and then putting your foot through the eye to pull the furler down to the tang. This leaves both hands free to pin it.
I have tried this, and found that my 110Kgs is just not enough, The winch is a cinch though!! 8)

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by Sumner » Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:45 am

...............a Johnson lever....................,

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by yukonbob » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:50 pm

Tie around the furler, through the anchor roller and back up (most people can pull it down and get another to pin) or if you have a long enough line back to one of your winches for a little extra pull. This can be done off the trailer, which after many times of setting up on the trailer, I am consistently leaning towards on the water setup.

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by 133bhp » Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:43 pm

this was more about being on the water rather than on the hard. Many times I had to pin after going through brigdes where I was, and now permantely in a slip. so worth mentioning for those that struggle on the water. makes life a lot easier/rig tensioned.

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by Wind of Freedom » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:54 pm

@133bhp: I don't understand, if this is about re-pinning the forestay on the water, then why do you mention the "bow roller" in your original post? The only bow roller I know of is on the trailer? Please enlighten me ... you got me curious ... LOL.

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by Azzarac » Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:48 pm

Like Sumner said... Johnson lever http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?pat ... &id=204892 Works on or off the water.

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by Sumner » Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:38 pm

Azzarac wrote:Like Sumner said... Johnson lever http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?pat ... &id=204892 Works on or off the water.
I haven't seen that one used before. Are you using it with a furler? I'm having a hard time visualizing how....

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...it would work with the furler drum. Is there much leverage with it and is the rig tight or do you still turn the turnbuckle?

I think the one I've seen most use is....

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http://www.defender.com/expanded.jsp?pa ... &id=205123

....the #14-205 (above). We went with one a couple inches longer, the ....

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#14-210 as it is rated for the 5/32 forestay we are using. Here is a link...

http://www.csjohnson.com/marinecatalog/00032.htm

Defender doesn't stock it but will order it. Both the 205 and 210 give you a lot of leverage and it is easy to pin and still get a lot of tension on the rig. More than you can get just pulling down. Before when I would pull the mast up with the gin pole and block and tackle I would still turn the turnbuckle after pinning. It wasn't that hard to do with the hank-on sail but would be real hard to do with the furler drum. Now I don't have to do that :) ,

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by mastreb » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:14 pm

The boats really ought to come stock with a Johnson lever, considering how often one has to do this.

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by Hamin' X » Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:09 pm

The bow roller is an option for the anchor and is attached to the boat.

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by Catigale » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:19 am

The boats really ought to come stock with a Johnson lever, considering how often one has to do this.
Smorgasbord business model. Macs in slips wouldn't benefit while trailer sailors obviously would benefit.

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Re: easier pin'ing of the furler forestay (26X)

Post by Azzarac » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:42 pm

Sum,

I followed Laika's modification on this site: http://www.macgregorsailors.com/modt/in ... ?view=1547 and it works fine.

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